Re-run of a Shippy Meme
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redfiona99Ask me about one of my fandoms and I'll tell you:
+ OTP
+ Runner-up
+ Honorable mention(s)
+ Crack pairing(s)
+ Ship everyone else seems to like, but I don't
+ OTP
+ Runner-up
+ Honorable mention(s)
+ Crack pairing(s)
+ Ship everyone else seems to like, but I don't
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Date: 2015-05-17 01:56 am (UTC)Wrestling: current
Wrestling: all-time
MCU
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Date: 2015-05-18 01:13 am (UTC)Actually, you don't mind if I ask a quick Ameri-pick question? A prison for young people over here is a young offender's institution. What is it called in the US?
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Date: 2015-05-18 02:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-05-18 05:57 pm (UTC)MCU
Date: 2015-05-18 10:45 pm (UTC)Runner-up + Honorable mention(s): In the rest of the MCU I am disturbingly vanilla, so Tony/Pepper, Thor/Jane and Steve/Peggy.
I particularly like the way Thor looks when he even thinks about Jane, he goes all stars and hearts and it's adorable.
Crack pairing(s): Coulson/Pepper, because they're the only reasonable people in their respective organisations. They'd be so organised and deadly. And well dressed and wryly affectionate.
Ship everyone else seems to like, but I don't: Natasha/Hulk, although I don't know anyone who likes it so I'm not sure if that's a good answer. It's just they don't work. They don't work in so many ways.
And it's not just because it broke up my OTP, because I <3 Hawkeye and Hawk-wife. And I think the reason I like Hawkeye/his wife is the exact reverse of why I don't like Nat/Bruce. Bruce goes 'stop doing the valuable and vital work you do because I don't like the person *I* turn into when we do this', while Hawk-wife goes 'I accept that you have a job that is dangerous, but I respect your choice to do it and will back you 100%, and if you ever want to stop, then I will back you in that too.' I <3 Hawk-wife rather a lot.
(Which causes a problem for any post-AOU fic that features Hawkeye/anyone, because it turns out that's a hard squick for me.)
Wrestling: current
Date: 2015-05-19 11:13 pm (UTC)OTP: Bram/Magnus - Evil Brits with a tendency to violence and chaos. So far, yay fun tag-team. Then you add exactly how grabby handed they are with each other and the look of glee they have when the other shows up and I am sold.
Runner-up + Honorable mention(s): Right now, I <3 the possibility of James Storm + Mickie James, adoring evil rednecks, which they keep teasing us with and would be so lovely. Matters are being helped by Storm seducing Mickie by being nice and complimentary to her about her wrestling and her music.
Because I am hella cheap and easy, the Dollhouse in some combo is just pretty (especially because of Marti Bell).
Crack pairing(s): I can't think of anyone. I'm not sure if it's because at the minute TNA are being very straight-forward and no-one is getting more character stuff than is entirely necessary.
Ship everyone else seems to like, but I don't: American Wolves, who have apparently fallen into the same role as AMW used to, of 'but they're each other's best friends'. Also, Davey Richards look of 'yay, my best friend is back' was adorable.
Wrestling: all-time
Date: 2015-06-02 06:34 pm (UTC)But at the same time, Randy is (was) so young, and impetuous and oddly vulnerable while Flair is a 'stylin', profilin', limousine riding, jet flying, kiss-stealing, wheelin' n' dealin' son of a gun!' and that can only end badly, because Ric still wants to be World Champion but knows he can't but he's ever so tempted.
So there's a lot of trickster mentor and dark protege and all the things I like there to begin with and then they're touchy-feely and then the in-ring break-up of Evolution happened and ...
That's not even getting into what would happen once the power in the relationship shifted, because Randy is older and more experienced and can win titles on his own but he's still draw to Ric despite knowing that it will always end badly.
Basically they make me flaily-handed and tl;dry.
Runner-up + Honorable mention(s):
Randy is basically my little black dress so there's him and Jindrak and him and Stacy, both of which are almost the exact opposite to him and Flair, except that they've both had the experience of WCW going bust while they were in it.
Nidia and Jamie - not actually evil trailer trash in love and actually and acutely adorable.
La Res - in any and all combinations.
Crack pairing(s): I'm not sure crack-pairings exist in wrestling in quite the same way as most fandoms because pretty much everyone has interacted at some point. But stuff like Drew Mac for Kelly Kelly or the Mickie->Jamie->Layla<-Regal mess, which I suspect were thrown in for fluff I really did like.
Ship everyone else seems to like, but I don't: AMW or the Wolves. Not because I don't love them as tag teams, but precisely because I love them as tag teams. They're already each other's best friends and no.
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Date: 2015-05-18 08:09 am (UTC)Revenge (and I'm sad but not that it has been cancelled/finished - mostly because there isn't much further they could've gone and at least it's on a good note overall).
X-Men prequels (First Class/Days Of Future Past).
X-Men movies (1, 2 and 3 as I have not seen the others).
Avengers movies.
Captain America movies.
Thor movies.
Iron Man movies.
(yes I do consider those to be four separate things as they only have a few overlapping characters).
MCU
Date: 2015-05-18 10:45 pm (UTC)OTP: Hawkeye/Black Widow - It's the way they back each other up without question and their body language and that they wouldn't hesitate to stop each other if either went rogue. The entire 'red in my ledger' scene makes me all *flail* hands.
Runner-up + Honorable mention(s): In the rest of the MCU I am disturbingly vanilla, so Tony/Pepper, Thor/Jane and Steve/Peggy.
I particularly like the way Thor looks when he even thinks about Jane, he goes all stars and hearts and it's adorable.
Crack pairing(s): Coulson/Pepper, because they're the only reasonable people in their respective organisations. They'd be so organised and deadly. And well dressed and wryly affectionate.
Ship everyone else seems to like, but I don't: Natasha/Hulk, although I don't know anyone who likes it so I'm not sure if that's a good answer. It's just they don't work. They don't work in so many ways.
And it's not just because it broke up my OTP, because I <3 Hawkeye and Hawk-wife. And I think the reason I like Hawkeye/his wife is the exact reverse of why I don't like Nat/Bruce. Bruce goes 'stop doing the valuable and vital work you do because I don't like the person *I* turn into when we do this', while Hawk-wife goes 'I accept that you have a job that is dangerous, but I respect your choice to do it and will back you 100%, and if you ever want to stop, then I will back you in that too.' I <3 Hawk-wife rather a lot.
(Which causes a problem for any post-AOU fic that features Hawkeye/anyone, because it turns out that's a hard squick for me.)
Re: MCU
Date: 2015-05-19 02:15 am (UTC)Awww, sweet :) I like the canon ships too. How do you feel about Steve/someone else? I'm kind of into the idea of Steve/Sharon (I'm aware of the issues with them in comic-verse but hope they will avoid most of that within the movies) but I'll admit part of it is because of residual Revenge fondness for the actress.
I can actually really see Coulson/Pepper for similar reasons.
The weird thing is? I like Natasha/Hulk - it's Natasha/Bruce I feel was handled badly. Yes, they are different ships in my mind.
I get it. I loved Hawk-wife. I will admit again part of it is actress love from another role (ER in her case).
Presumably the disturbingly vanilla takes away an open relationship as a possibility?
Re: MCU
Date: 2015-05-19 12:41 pm (UTC)>>The weird thing is? I like Natasha/Hulk - it's Natasha/Bruce I feel was handled badly<< Yes, this makes sense.
>>Presumably the disturbingly vanilla takes away an open relationship as a possibility?<< No, it was more that all my MCU ships (with the exception of Black Widow/Hawkeye) are canon and that's not usual for me.
Re: MCU
Date: 2015-07-07 11:16 am (UTC)I'm glad it makes sense. I think they could do interesting future things but I wouldn't hate it if it was left on the shelf - it did have an appropriate ending.
That is unusual! For me too.
Revenge (which got long, sorry)
Date: 2015-05-19 11:57 pm (UTC)OTP: Emily/Jack. It's not that I don't like them in other ships, it's just that that's who I wanted the other one to end up with from day 1.
Runner-up + Honorable mention(s): Jack/Margaux, before usual Revenge-y hi-jinks occurred.
Emily/Ben, before (spoiler) happened. (Spoiler gap used since I'm not sure if you've seen the end of season 4.) Because Ben seemed to legitimately like Emily. For no ulterior reason. Which is unusual.
Emily/Aiden, eventually, once I'd warmed up to him. Which took some warming. Because, argh! Aiden, I know you wanted the best for Emily but ... stop getting in her way, and stop being mean to Nolan. Only he did love Revenge-y Emily, utterly and completely and I think she could have been happy with him had Victoria not killed him.
Amanda/Emily - In all it's messy, manipulative, dynamite and fire glory.
Nolan/David, which you utterly called. Because there's Nolan's deep and abiding love and respect for him and David's utter sense of betrayal before he finds out who Emily is and ... yes.
Crack pairing(s):
Nolan/Aiden, or sort of. Because, before Victoria killed him, I always envisioned a future where Emily and Jack live happily ever after and Nolan and Aiden live next door and Nolan has grown to love Aiden, while accepting that Aiden will always love Emily (which Nolan doesn't mind) and this way at least they can keep an eye on Emily and Jack and keep them safe. There may be a (now sadly AU) on my 'to be written' pile on this theme.
I also had hopes for Charlotte and crazy girl stalker, of them settling down happily with the baby but season 3 happened.
Ship everyone else seems to like, but I don't:
Three answers for three different reasons.
Nolan/Emily - because no, they are each other's best friends forever and just too precious for words like that. I've always said my perfect end-game for Revenge was Emily/Jack with Nolan living next door because that would make him happy.
Nolan/Patrick - because Patrick set off every single one of my 'no, run away now' spider senses. Which I know is not due to the actor, it's entirely down to the character. He just seemed really shady and controlling. And I remember the look on his ex-wife's face when Nolan asked about him. It looked pretty much like terror.
Emily/Daniel - because I wanted Daniel covered by bees. Many bees. And I know he's not even in the top three worst people in his family, but I just really hated him by the end.
X-Men prequels (First Class/Days Of Future Past)
Date: 2015-06-05 05:39 am (UTC)Runner-up + Honorable mention(s): I am all about Mystique/any number of people. I think it's partly how Jennifer Lawrence plays her, because she starts off so wanting of affection and grows into this complex, dangerous woman (I am one of those people who calls the films 'Mystique: Origins parts 1 and 2'). And partly it's just, she's so pretty.
So yeah, I am all in favour of Mystique/Hank, Mystique/Magneto (which is hot like burning and awkward in a completely different way to Mystique/Charles), Mystique/Angel (see also, hot like burning) and Mystique/Azazel.
Basically, give me Mystique fic and I'm happy.
Crack pairing(s): There are those who would say that Mystique/Angel or Azazel are crack pairings. They are wrong. I think you could make a reasonable case for most of the pairings for this 'verse.
Ship everyone else seems to like, but I don't: Alex/Darwin, nothing against it, I just don't see it. Ditto Emma Frost/Shaw. That I see more as her playing along with him because it's easier than dealing with him being pissed off at her. Now that's a dynamic and a story I want to read about. Written by someone who isn't me because I just can't write Frosty, possible because, with the exception of when she was housemother for Gen X, I don't like the character.
Re: X-Men prequels (First Class/Days Of Future Past)
Date: 2015-07-07 11:18 am (UTC)I think it is Jennifer Lawrence. She gets Raven I think. And yes, she's beautiful.
I think so too.
I never saw the fuss about Alex/Darwin. Can't help wondering if it's progressivism rather than shipping at times. Oh goodness, no to Emma/Shaw. Secret? I didn't dislike Emma either...
Re: X-Men prequels (First Class/Days Of Future Past)
Date: 2015-07-18 09:50 pm (UTC)The Alex/Darwin thing did seem a lot like 'pair the spares' and get cookies for slashing the non-white character. Neither of these things appeal.
With Film-verse Frosty, it's one of those things where I'm never sure if I'm missing things because I just don't dig the character, or if they're actually not there.
X-Men movies (1, 2 and 3 as I have not seen the others).
Date: 2015-06-05 05:07 pm (UTC)Runner-up + Honorable mention(s): Not in the traditional way, but I get really upset when people split Jean and Scott up. And I don't even like Scott. I will also happily go with Bobby/John/Rogue in a all-need-each-other-to-be-stable tripod.
Crack pairing(s): I don't think it's a crack pairing but Storm/Hank, it's all light and flirty and then not, and I have several unfinished (and probably never going to be finished) fics on the theme.
Ship everyone else seems to like, but I don't: Two answers, although the second is in two parts.
1) Bobby/Kitty, but I don't know anyone who thought that was a good idea, because Bobby would never, and Kitty would never. I have no problem with it in the bad future in DOFP, because Rogue is not around any more so it doesn't hit my squicks.
2)Wolverine/any of his teenage girl partners in crime, because he gets another one in Wolverine in Japan (I know it isn't really called that but if the studio is going to give it a sucky name then I am going to re-christen it to my liking). Because no. Now I'm fine with one sided pining from the girl, and I'm fine with Wolverine being attracted to her but not doing anything about it because it would be wrong. Because it would be wrong, they are proteges. You do not sleep with your proteges.
If you don't mind me detouring on to the two Wolverine films.
You're not missing much with Wolverine: Origins. The opening is a marginally less cool version of the Watchmen opening. Basically, any scene with Liev Schreiber's Sabretooth is worth watching because he gets the character, even if he doesn't look right. Danny Houston gives a good horrid as Stryker. Everyone else, not so much. Not Hugh Jackman's fault, he does his best, but the script doesn't get Wolverine.
Wolverine in Japan, on the other hand, is far better than it should be. Mostly because of Yuriko and Mariko, and because the writers actually get who Wolverine is. It also links the old films to the new films with the awesome after credits sequence, which ties the old films with the new ones, in the most wonderful way. It is literally better than the equivalent scene I imagined and can be found here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WJkjK6Mrog No spoilers for anything directly, but it leads into DOFP.
Thor movies.
Date: 2015-06-07 05:46 pm (UTC)Runner-up + Honorable mention(s) + Crack pairing(s): I'm combining all of these because my two runners-up are kind of cracky, and it's not really a 'shippy fandom for me.
Entirely one-sided Selvig/Thor: Partly the fault of an lgbtfest prompt which I swear I will fill one of these days, and the idea of a Selvig who has given up everything to be a professor and then suddenly this inhumanly attractive, adorable hunk hurricanes through his life and he's not going to do anything about it because it would upset Jane and he loves her like a daughter, but that doesn't stop him loving Thor.
Volstagg/Sif - Which may have been jossed by the second film but this sort of really courtly courting and there are flowers and verse and Fandral and Hogan helping out and Sif going 'is this all really necessary, just say you want to split a boar and mead with me'.
Ship everyone else seems to like, but I don't:
1) Movie-verse Sif/Loki. Listen I dig that they are thing in comics-verse but comicsverse != movieverse and they've exchanged maybe 3 sentences in the films and two of those were threats. This does not a ship make for me.
2) Darcy/Ian the Intern. Because it squicks me something chronic. I think the problem is that no-one on the writing staff did their research on the UK academic system so don't realise that Darcy is kind of responsible for his grades and that makes it wrong. Matters are really not helped by the fact that I've had several project students and so I know first hand how squicky it is.
Captain America movies (apparently I tl;dr)
Date: 2015-07-18 11:00 pm (UTC)Runner-up: I am cool with Steve/Natasha (apparently, the only person I don't ship her with is the person canon ships her with) and Steve/Sam.
Honorable mention(s) + Crack pairing(s): Entirely one-sided Howard Stark/Steve, and it's not that Howard doesn't love his wife, but he keeps vanishing off hunting for Steve's body because Steve deserves a decent burial, and Tony just doesn't get why and gets really annoyed that his father keeps vanishing (and I swear it plays into why he and Steve bicker constantly).
Meanwhile, Howard is pissed off at the opportunities Tony is wasting because he knew this kid from Brooklyn who had no opportunities and saved the world and how dare Tony not at least try and ...
It's actually a Howard and Tony and dear god, why don't the Stark boys ever talk about their feelings fic but the Howard <3's Tony is part of it. (Also, my filmverse fanon for Howard Stark is that he is at most 2nd generation American and that Stark is an Anglicisation of something like Starchelli or Starski or Starkevski and there's a lot of 'bootstraps' on his part and, like I said, why the two of them can't talk sometimes ...)
Part of the problem is that a lot of the Captain America fic I want to write is gen fic about the Howling Commandos and Peggy. Or gen fic about the rematch between Batroc and Steve and I have pages of notes on that because apparently, I am easy to please if you get George St. Pierre to kick people in your films.
Ship everyone else seems to like, but I don't: Bucky and Steve, and it's the old problem of 'but they're each other's best friends' and I want to draw stars and hearts round them for that because it's obvious that they love each other, because otherwise *that* scene towards the end where Steve looks at Bucky and you can see him going 'I have to kill him to save the world and I will do it because it's what Bucky would have wanted; I don't want to but I will because it is the right thing to do' wouldn't work the way it does.
I think this is a me problem not a pairing problem.