In which Red may upset a few people

[redfiona99]

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And now for the quite possibly annoying to some part of the post. First, I would like to issue the following caveat - my LJ, I speak my mind, therefore feel free to disagree but it is my incontravertable right to say what I want.

Which is Redspeak for if I piss anyone off, I'm sorry.

Okay so they're doing a documentary series thing about Leonardo Da Vinci. And apparently they are going to look at the man behind the art - and this is a quote "the illegitimate, gay, self-taught, Renaissance genius."

Which of these descriptions is unnecessary? I'd say the first two since I'm a firm believer in the art being the important thing, not the man.

A true artist goes beyond themselves to create something universal. So to me, it doesn't matter if he was the offspring of two goats and a chicken. He made pretty paintings and designed wonderous technology.

It's actually quite a shame that the build-up put so much emphasis on it being about the private life of Leonardo since there was lots of really interesting technical detail about how he was among the first wave of artists to use oils instead of tempera (something I have to learn about for blasted Chemistry). I think part of the problem stems from me being a born scientist and demanding facts rather than inference from the few surviving documents from that era. And after 400-500 years I refuse to believe they can actually verify half the claims they are making about his private life.

Oh and before anyone accuses me of homophobia or something similar when you don't want the people you respect to be gay, basically the only thing I suffer from is I-don't-give-a-fuckia.

In this harsh celebrity driven age people seem to have forgotten the difference between the artist and the art.

Comments

[yesdrizella.livejournal.com]

Nah, you're right. Those first two descriptions are unnecessary. Wow, he's not only a bastard child but he buttfucked! -_- As if those two things were trials that he overcame in order to become one of the most intelligent minds in history? Puh-leeze.

[frala.livejournal.com]

The art is the important thing but understanding the man makes where he may have been coming from given the politics of the time and how he would have been percieved during hsi time being who and what he was played into not only his thought process and the way his art was perceived by peple then as compared to now.

But ultimately the art is the most important thing, even if the process behind it and why he may have been driven to try so many differnt new things that if he was happily married with a bunch of kids from a happy rich family he may never have had to deal with or may never really have come up with anything interesting that we'd even care about talking about.

And having said that I do agree that right now at this point unless you are really getting into the artists process or delving into the why instead of the what he did that those two statments dont really matter. :)

[redfiona99.livejournal.com]

>>understanding the man makes where he may have been coming from given the politics of the time and how he would have been percieved during hsi time being who and what he was played into not only his thought process and the way his art was perceived by peple then as compared to now.<<

That I do get. I mean there was a good one on another channel about Titan, and large chunks of it were about how his paintings made him popular in the Hapsburg royal court, meaning that they took him on as their official painter, meaning he had pretty much a job for life so he could try experimental techniques.

Good point about the way families affect art :)

>>And having said that I do agree that right now at this point unless you are really getting into the artists process or delving into the why instead of the what he did that those two statments dont really matter. :)<<

I think that's part of the problem, I fear they are only using this to get Mark Rylance (the actor portraying Leonardo) naked. Something which I am in favour of normally, but I like it to be purposeful nekkidness. :)

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[frala.livejournal.com]

That I do get. I mean there was a good one on another channel about Titan, and large chunks of it were about how his paintings made him popular in the Hapsburg royal court, meaning that they took him on as their official painter, meaning he had pretty much a job for life so he could try experimental techniques.

- *nids* cause it was so all about politics and shit back then as much if not more as now, I totally liked Titan, I bet that was great

Good point about the way families affect art :)

- thanks

I think that's part of the problem, I fear they are only using this to get Mark Rylance (the actor portraying Leonardo) naked. Something which I am in favour of normally, but I like it to be purposeful nekkidness. :)

- I can soo totally see that. *grin* And its also a catchy kind of thing right now that gay is a pop word that selss, which considering the state of the 'real' world kinda boggles me but nevertheless its a cheap way to advertise :D

[for-no-one.livejournal.com]

i do think the artist is just as important as the art. and taking a look into the personal life of an artist takes a look into what things possibly inspired the art. however, the fact that he was a bastard and gay (although i thought he was bi) are kind of irrelevant things to single out. but eh.

[redfiona99.livejournal.com]

I see your point. I think it's the scandalmongering I object to.

[creepy-girl80.livejournal.com]

mmm, that felt a wee bit salacious on their part, as if to say he transcended this by being a "brilliant artist" or somesuch.

Wl,
Missy

[redfiona99.livejournal.com]

Which is a pity, because the series is quite good. must type up my comments on it eventually.

[creepy-girl80.livejournal.com]

Oh, I'd love to read that!

Missy