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redfiona99Finally. The long story of why I've only just seen it is very long.
First, the trailers:
Homefront It pleases me that Hollywood has finally figured out that James Franco is made to play villains. It also pleases me that the womenfolk appear to be just as dangerous as the menfolk. Is that Clancy Brown? (Or rather, yeah, that is Clancy Brown!)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier Looks a bit grim-dark. I do, however, approve of how they've done the trailer, because if you know the thing it really shows it off very well, and if you don't know the thing, it just looks cool.
The Hobbit - It looks like I will be torn between wanting to hug Thorin and wanting to punch him, which I think is a good sign. Also, why is it always spiders?
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On to Thor 2:
I can see why some people didn't like it. It was a bit thrown together. But, at the same time, it was fun and it covered all the things I wanted it to cover. And Selvig didn't die. So yeah, it's probably not a good film, but it's a good slice of popcorn.
1 - Thor
2 - Iron Man
3 - Avengers
4 - Thor 2
5 - Captain America
I've still not see Iron Man 2 or 3.
I had the usual problem of having seen a different film from large chunks of fandom, but I'm quite fond of the film I saw.
Because of the "twist" at the end (is it still a twist when the character is one of those where even if there's a body you assume he's not dead?), there's a fair few scenes where you have to try to figure out whether what he's doing is part of the plan or not part of the plan.
My favourite scene was the one with the Warriors 3 (minus Hogan) and the Lady Sif, where, despite them thinking it's a terrible plan, that won't work, that Loki can't be trusted and will get them done for treason. And they do it anyway. They are my favourites.
The reason I liked it is because it allowed some quick character stuff
1 - They would, quite happily, die for Thor.
2 - Thor, quite sensibly structures his plan so that they can't. I refuse to believe it's accidental that his plan means none of the three of them (or Heimdall) go to Svartelfheim with him.
3 - When fighting the palace guards, they all use non-lethal force because they're fighting their kith. Just, total love for them.
It also allowed some nice compare and contrasts between them and their Midgardian counterparts (which would be Darcy, Selvig and Ian the Intern) and their dark elves ones (which is Algrim, who you know would walk into fire for Malekith).
I was a bit worried about someone pulling a heroic sacrifice but it's Thor, where they are less likely to kill people off with no reason. Now before anyone says anything about Frigga, um, she died a warrior's death and gets to go to Valhalla. Who wouldn't want that end? (I wasn't so much brought up wrong as much as ... differently) And Malekith just accepts that, yeah, she wouldn't talk so there's no point torturing her and kills her cleanly.
I did like that the film was written by someone who understood that if you hear the word elf, running the other way is a perfectly acceptable option. I liked how horrible the Dark Elves weapons looked, particularly the wormhole grenades. I also liked that Algrim took one look at Loki and went, "I want nothing to do with that". Also, what's the over and under on at least a goodly portion of Loki's violent grief being due to him realising where he sent Algrim to. Because I think that bit's real. I also think that him rescuing Jane is not deliberate, and is interesting, because it suggests when he's not actively being himself, he's no worse than anyone else, which makes him just about redeemable and justifies the fact that even if Loki betrays him this time, or another time or really this is the second faked death that Thor will have lived through and he will still forgive him. Because Thor is clearly lying when he says he'll never forgive Loki. Lying is probably the wrong word, because he's sure he means it, but we know that he'll forgive him. It part of what makes him adorable.
Because he is.
As is Jane. And Jane and Thor together because they are adorable.
As are Darcy (once the script settles down, don't be mean to your project students Darcy), Selvig, the Intern, random Chris O'Dowd*, the Warriors Three and the Lady Sif, every Asgardian other than the all-father and Loki. That is why I like the Thor films.
I also liked that they let the audience do some of their own thinking, like by not showing the scene where Fandral threatened Loki (I was amused by the adorable person on tvtropes who thought that Fandral hadn't because he's a swordsman rather than a bruiser, and I'm like, dude, that makes it a matter of honour for him to make it clear to Loki what the duel would be over. Also he's a melange of Errol Flynn characters, damn right he threatened Loki.) or not showing what happened to Odin. Admittedly I think he's not dead because you can't taunt your enemy and make him watch Asgard bow down to you if he's dead and Loki totally missed that "Do Not" in Evil Overlords 101.
This wasn't perfect by any means, I think it really could have done with the backstory for Malekith and the Dark Elves that got cut for time, but I enjoyed it.
*Also hi, random Clive Russell and blink and I thought I'd missed you Tony Cullen.
First, the trailers:
Homefront It pleases me that Hollywood has finally figured out that James Franco is made to play villains. It also pleases me that the womenfolk appear to be just as dangerous as the menfolk. Is that Clancy Brown? (Or rather, yeah, that is Clancy Brown!)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier Looks a bit grim-dark. I do, however, approve of how they've done the trailer, because if you know the thing it really shows it off very well, and if you don't know the thing, it just looks cool.
The Hobbit - It looks like I will be torn between wanting to hug Thorin and wanting to punch him, which I think is a good sign. Also, why is it always spiders?
~~~~
On to Thor 2:
I can see why some people didn't like it. It was a bit thrown together. But, at the same time, it was fun and it covered all the things I wanted it to cover. And Selvig didn't die. So yeah, it's probably not a good film, but it's a good slice of popcorn.
1 - Thor
2 - Iron Man
3 - Avengers
4 - Thor 2
5 - Captain America
I've still not see Iron Man 2 or 3.
I had the usual problem of having seen a different film from large chunks of fandom, but I'm quite fond of the film I saw.
Because of the "twist" at the end (is it still a twist when the character is one of those where even if there's a body you assume he's not dead?), there's a fair few scenes where you have to try to figure out whether what he's doing is part of the plan or not part of the plan.
My favourite scene was the one with the Warriors 3 (minus Hogan) and the Lady Sif, where, despite them thinking it's a terrible plan, that won't work, that Loki can't be trusted and will get them done for treason. And they do it anyway. They are my favourites.
The reason I liked it is because it allowed some quick character stuff
1 - They would, quite happily, die for Thor.
2 - Thor, quite sensibly structures his plan so that they can't. I refuse to believe it's accidental that his plan means none of the three of them (or Heimdall) go to Svartelfheim with him.
3 - When fighting the palace guards, they all use non-lethal force because they're fighting their kith. Just, total love for them.
It also allowed some nice compare and contrasts between them and their Midgardian counterparts (which would be Darcy, Selvig and Ian the Intern) and their dark elves ones (which is Algrim, who you know would walk into fire for Malekith).
I was a bit worried about someone pulling a heroic sacrifice but it's Thor, where they are less likely to kill people off with no reason. Now before anyone says anything about Frigga, um, she died a warrior's death and gets to go to Valhalla. Who wouldn't want that end? (I wasn't so much brought up wrong as much as ... differently) And Malekith just accepts that, yeah, she wouldn't talk so there's no point torturing her and kills her cleanly.
I did like that the film was written by someone who understood that if you hear the word elf, running the other way is a perfectly acceptable option. I liked how horrible the Dark Elves weapons looked, particularly the wormhole grenades. I also liked that Algrim took one look at Loki and went, "I want nothing to do with that". Also, what's the over and under on at least a goodly portion of Loki's violent grief being due to him realising where he sent Algrim to. Because I think that bit's real. I also think that him rescuing Jane is not deliberate, and is interesting, because it suggests when he's not actively being himself, he's no worse than anyone else, which makes him just about redeemable and justifies the fact that even if Loki betrays him this time, or another time or really this is the second faked death that Thor will have lived through and he will still forgive him. Because Thor is clearly lying when he says he'll never forgive Loki. Lying is probably the wrong word, because he's sure he means it, but we know that he'll forgive him. It part of what makes him adorable.
Because he is.
As is Jane. And Jane and Thor together because they are adorable.
As are Darcy (once the script settles down, don't be mean to your project students Darcy), Selvig, the Intern, random Chris O'Dowd*, the Warriors Three and the Lady Sif, every Asgardian other than the all-father and Loki. That is why I like the Thor films.
I also liked that they let the audience do some of their own thinking, like by not showing the scene where Fandral threatened Loki (I was amused by the adorable person on tvtropes who thought that Fandral hadn't because he's a swordsman rather than a bruiser, and I'm like, dude, that makes it a matter of honour for him to make it clear to Loki what the duel would be over. Also he's a melange of Errol Flynn characters, damn right he threatened Loki.) or not showing what happened to Odin. Admittedly I think he's not dead because you can't taunt your enemy and make him watch Asgard bow down to you if he's dead and Loki totally missed that "Do Not" in Evil Overlords 101.
This wasn't perfect by any means, I think it really could have done with the backstory for Malekith and the Dark Elves that got cut for time, but I enjoyed it.
*Also hi, random Clive Russell and blink and I thought I'd missed you Tony Cullen.
