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Watching the first half of the top 100 war films ever thing on Channel 4 and some US film critic was talking about 'Life is Beautiful' and comes out with this piece of English - "It travesties ...". He starts about 4 sentences with that, and I'm here tearing my hair out, going, 'no mate, you're the one making a travesty of something, the English language mostly.' Argh!!!!

Also arghmachend is that Troy is at 53, about 20 places higher than Glory. How the fuck did that happen?!!! Best bit of it, is Wolfgang Petersen talking and Brian Cox proving, once again, to be an absolute darling when interviewed (the man is a fantabulous actor).

Date: 2005-05-14 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thedevilchicken.livejournal.com
I'm really glad that I'm not that only one that really, really annoyed! Err, needless to say, I've also been watching the 100 Greatest War Films or whatever the hell it was called. Some of it's really annoying because there's a lot that I've never heard of, not a lot that I have, and a lot of critics being arty and weird about some of it. Not to mention travesty-man and Troy placing higher than so many better films. If you're basing it on the battles then maybe... hmm... but they're not, obviously, because well, half of the things in it didn't have battles. Doesn't really bode well for the rest of the programme, does it. Meh.

Though the interview with Wolfgang Petersen was cute, playing Brad and Eric against each other, and Brian Cox - you're right, absolute darling. It's the thing about wanting to make an epic since he was a boy, methinks.

Date: 2005-05-15 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redfiona99.livejournal.com
That's the scary thing is most of these 100 greatest x thing I don't know the films, most of these I do know in some way. Travesty-man must be hit over the head with the OED. I fear panel justice has been involved in these placements, or even worse, vox populi.

I'd like to interview Petersen, ask him what he really would have done with Troy if he'd had his way (what with him not wanting to show Helen. I live in the hope that it would have been better.)

Darling Brian Cox is just wrong in some way.

Date: 2005-05-15 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thedevilchicken.livejournal.com
I actually only saw it from 77 to 50, so maybe I would've known a few more if I'd been watching the whole time. I can't even remember what we were watching before that, so obviously it really captured my attention. heh, I think I'd probably enjoy thwacking travesty-man about the head with the OED, actually - or sitting him down and explaining the proper usage of the word "travesy" and then thwacking him with it. And really, asking the general public is the kiss of death for actual decent, truthful placements in shows like this. There'll inevitably be squealy teens going "ooh, Brad Pitt!" Though admittedly I'm now watching Troy. *whistles*

It'd be really interesting to know what he would've done with it... I wish he'd had the freedom to treat it exactly as he wanted to rather than being put under "ooh, big Hollywood blockbuster, nothing experimental" sort of pressure. Hadn't heard that he didn't want to show Helen, but dear God, that would've been interesting. Probably more interesting than the insipid blonde they got for the part, let's say. And the rest of the film... not the most thrilling I've ever seen, no. Just sort of pretty with essentially dull bits connecting the battles, all held together by the prettiness of the protagonists.

*snickers* You're so right. Great actor, but he's so, well, nice. Or he often comes off sounding that way, at least.

(And since I'm not saying this in my own LJ, I just thought I'd say I loved Dr. Who tonight. Oh yes.)

Date: 2005-05-15 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redfiona99.livejournal.com
>>I actually only saw it from 77 to 50, so maybe I would've known a few more if I'd been watching the whole time. I can't even remember what we were watching before that, so obviously it really captured my attention.<<

I only caught about that much - they clashed with CSI:NY and nothing messes with that. So glad I made that choice too because there was lots of Flack in this episode. Will post pic in journal that may explain my fondness for CSI:NY.

>>or sitting him down and explaining the proper usage of the word "travesy" and then thwacking him with it.<<

Good plan.

>>Hadn't heard that he didn't want to show Helen, but dear God, that would've been interesting. Probably more interesting than the insipid blonde they got for the part, let's say.<<

I think his idea was that Helen of Troy being the face that launched a thousand ships was a bit difficult to embody in an actress, no matter how stunning.

>>(And since I'm not saying this in my own LJ, I just thought I'd say I loved Dr. Who tonight. Oh yes.)<<

Oh yes indeed. Most interesting and I love Rose's Dad.

Date: 2005-05-15 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thedevilchicken.livejournal.com
Grr, I still haven't seen any of CSI:NY. My dad hates CSI with an unholy passion, for reasons I haven't been able to discern, and there's no other television in the house that gets a signal on the right channel (annoying as we've got four TV's here), so I never get to watch. Grr. One day.

I think Petersen'd be right about that, y'know - though that's probably why they went with the insipid blonde in the end. Generic enough that she couldn't really be offensive to anyone, but not really stunning in any way. Which is a pity. It's probably bad that I think all the other women in the film are better looking than she is. Reminds me oddly of a weirdly washed out Keira Knightley.

Good episode. I haven't seen too many, I admit (something else my dad doesn't like, and my mum just sits here and makes fun of it all the way through), but today's was good. It's making me nostalgic for when I watched it when I was younger. Woe.

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