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redfiona99) wrote2008-04-07 02:16 pm
redfiona99) wrote2008-04-07 02:16 pm
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Further Torchwood Thinkage
In which there are spoilers for Torchwood, Doctor Who, the Spiderman films, Marvel comics in general and 2000 AD comics.
I find myself amused by people trying to come up with ways of bringing back Owen. Because it's the one thing I don't want the show to do. This has nothing to do with not liking him, because, well I hope my love of Owen is clear. It's more that if they're going to pull out the 'killing off characters' card I want them to stick to it, because otherwise it devalues the drama. Because I don't want a situation like with Marvel comics where the returns from the dead have meant that death scenes have totally lost all meaning (certain exceptions obviously true, for instance Pyro and Senator Kelly in one of the Legacy virus story).
In 2000 AD dead means dead so when the characters get shot at it means something. The only case I can think of where dead wasn't dead was the Sinister/Dexter comic where they were setting up further chaos.
I understand the urge to fix people's horrible deaths (see Harry Osbourne in the Spiderman films) in canon, but sometimes they have a fitting ending, especially, oddly enough Harry and Owen and the whole 'state of grace' thing. This being especially true of Harry, given how much he has to make up for.
Also, and I think this is why the ending of Season 3 of nu-Who fell so flat, if you're going to bring everything back, there has to be a price. When Rose went all Bad Wolf it caused the Doctor to 'die' and Jack to be consigned to a fate worse than death. Peter Parker saving Aunt May lead to him having to lose Mary-Jane, etc. That's also why Voyager's endless reset buttons don't work, there's no payment for them.
I am also amused by the people who are wondering why Jack didn't go mad during his burial. Given all the things that have happened to him, if he was going to go bug nuts, he would have done so a long time ago. A very long time ago. That he hasn't is one of the lovely, terrifying things about him.
I find myself amused by people trying to come up with ways of bringing back Owen. Because it's the one thing I don't want the show to do. This has nothing to do with not liking him, because, well I hope my love of Owen is clear. It's more that if they're going to pull out the 'killing off characters' card I want them to stick to it, because otherwise it devalues the drama. Because I don't want a situation like with Marvel comics where the returns from the dead have meant that death scenes have totally lost all meaning (certain exceptions obviously true, for instance Pyro and Senator Kelly in one of the Legacy virus story).
In 2000 AD dead means dead so when the characters get shot at it means something. The only case I can think of where dead wasn't dead was the Sinister/Dexter comic where they were setting up further chaos.
I understand the urge to fix people's horrible deaths (see Harry Osbourne in the Spiderman films) in canon, but sometimes they have a fitting ending, especially, oddly enough Harry and Owen and the whole 'state of grace' thing. This being especially true of Harry, given how much he has to make up for.
Also, and I think this is why the ending of Season 3 of nu-Who fell so flat, if you're going to bring everything back, there has to be a price. When Rose went all Bad Wolf it caused the Doctor to 'die' and Jack to be consigned to a fate worse than death. Peter Parker saving Aunt May lead to him having to lose Mary-Jane, etc. That's also why Voyager's endless reset buttons don't work, there's no payment for them.
I am also amused by the people who are wondering why Jack didn't go mad during his burial. Given all the things that have happened to him, if he was going to go bug nuts, he would have done so a long time ago. A very long time ago. That he hasn't is one of the lovely, terrifying things about him.