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redfiona99) wrote2015-01-06 11:24 pm
redfiona99) wrote2015-01-06 11:24 pm
The Hobbit: Battle of the Five Armies
Which is not called The Hobbit 3: Revenge of the Hobbits
I am aware that it might not be brilliant. I wasn't particularly impressed with the in media res beginning. I mean, I get why, but I didn't much like it. I could have done without Romeo and Juli-elf.
It still broke me and good.
We're talking twenty minutes of crying.*
Basically, I was crying from Thorin's death onwards. I cried when he died, I cried when Bilbo cried, I cried when the dwarves cried, I cried when Bilbo couldn't explain himself, I cried when Dale sounded its horn, I cried when Gandalf tried to cheer Bilbo up, I cried for Bilbo's future and for Frodo's and I cried when the end credits started.
The problem is that I over-identify with the dwarves. They are my people in the most literal sense. Obviously, there's no hereditary madness in my family at all (I am Balin or Dwalin because I am seeing this all over again).
And I just feel for Thorin and the pressure he was under, from his responsibilities (oh how you remind me of Boromir, Thorin), mixed with his one weakness, and he's drowned under, but then there's moments where he's Thorin Oakenshield again and it hurts and oh that scene where Balin and Bilbo are talking about Thorin!!!
Then there's Thorin's glorious return to himself and the last ride and that horrible suspicion I have that he wasn't intending to return.
I am aware that it's probably the duties of kingship in exile (and obsessive revengening) but I find it interesting that Thorin doesn't have a wife and/or offspring. I know about the Dwarf sex ratio problem and the low reproduction rate but I do wonder if it's deliberate on his part, because he does seem to be determined that Fili or Kili take over, not someone in his direct line, and I'm wondering if it's because he's worried that he will turn into his father/grandfather.
Oh Thorin!
And Bilbo trying to keep him alive even though he knows it's futile and ...
I am often mean about Martin Freeman, because he's so very precious about acting, but he does ordinary and human so very well. And he's trying so hard to save Thorin throughout.
In things that don't directly relate to the doom of the dwarves, I <3 Bard, I <3 Bard's children and I <3 the villageress #3.
I spent a lot of time not being able to place Alfred. The actor's name didn't help and it took accidentally seeing a picture of King Louis from the BBC Musketeers for me to place him.
I <3 Dain and I <3 his war warthog. The war warthog amused even my mother who has no truck with anything featuring orcs.
I presume Tauriel is going to join the elf equivalent of a nunnery. I suspect they could have done with her when the business with the ring happens.
There may have been inappropriate giggling over Legolas hurricanranaing an orc.
The bit where Bilbo fingers the ring and gollums out for a second disturbed me, because, well, evil ring is evil and I know no good will come of it.
Galadriel was terrifying in the good way.
I do feel that this and LOTR as a whole should come with a subtitle of "Why does no one heed Elrond's advice?!" Because really, why!!!
*Various RL things undoubtedly contributed. Possibly BOFA should not be taken under the influence of RL things.
I am aware that it might not be brilliant. I wasn't particularly impressed with the in media res beginning. I mean, I get why, but I didn't much like it. I could have done without Romeo and Juli-elf.
It still broke me and good.
We're talking twenty minutes of crying.*
Basically, I was crying from Thorin's death onwards. I cried when he died, I cried when Bilbo cried, I cried when the dwarves cried, I cried when Bilbo couldn't explain himself, I cried when Dale sounded its horn, I cried when Gandalf tried to cheer Bilbo up, I cried for Bilbo's future and for Frodo's and I cried when the end credits started.
The problem is that I over-identify with the dwarves. They are my people in the most literal sense. Obviously, there's no hereditary madness in my family at all (I am Balin or Dwalin because I am seeing this all over again).
And I just feel for Thorin and the pressure he was under, from his responsibilities (oh how you remind me of Boromir, Thorin), mixed with his one weakness, and he's drowned under, but then there's moments where he's Thorin Oakenshield again and it hurts and oh that scene where Balin and Bilbo are talking about Thorin!!!
Then there's Thorin's glorious return to himself and the last ride and that horrible suspicion I have that he wasn't intending to return.
I am aware that it's probably the duties of kingship in exile (and obsessive revengening) but I find it interesting that Thorin doesn't have a wife and/or offspring. I know about the Dwarf sex ratio problem and the low reproduction rate but I do wonder if it's deliberate on his part, because he does seem to be determined that Fili or Kili take over, not someone in his direct line, and I'm wondering if it's because he's worried that he will turn into his father/grandfather.
Oh Thorin!
And Bilbo trying to keep him alive even though he knows it's futile and ...
I am often mean about Martin Freeman, because he's so very precious about acting, but he does ordinary and human so very well. And he's trying so hard to save Thorin throughout.
In things that don't directly relate to the doom of the dwarves, I <3 Bard, I <3 Bard's children and I <3 the villageress #3.
I spent a lot of time not being able to place Alfred. The actor's name didn't help and it took accidentally seeing a picture of King Louis from the BBC Musketeers for me to place him.
I <3 Dain and I <3 his war warthog. The war warthog amused even my mother who has no truck with anything featuring orcs.
I presume Tauriel is going to join the elf equivalent of a nunnery. I suspect they could have done with her when the business with the ring happens.
There may have been inappropriate giggling over Legolas hurricanranaing an orc.
The bit where Bilbo fingers the ring and gollums out for a second disturbed me, because, well, evil ring is evil and I know no good will come of it.
Galadriel was terrifying in the good way.
I do feel that this and LOTR as a whole should come with a subtitle of "Why does no one heed Elrond's advice?!" Because really, why!!!
*Various RL things undoubtedly contributed. Possibly BOFA should not be taken under the influence of RL things.